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Post by The Doctor on Jul 24, 2016 10:47:36 GMT
Very much looking forward to watching Discovery in January.
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 24, 2016 11:52:36 GMT
The triangle isn't very pleasant, but Ill not let that bring me down from yesterdays Trek high.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 24, 2016 12:25:16 GMT
I generally like it. Interested to see how it looks in context when rendered to broadcast standard. It's a different asthetic to an Enterprise design.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 24, 2016 14:56:33 GMT
OK, I am seeing lots of shouting online that Discovery has been confirmed as being set in the original (Prime) Trek timeline but I am having difficulty finding a direct quote from anyone involved in the production confirming or denying this. Has anyone seen a quote?
This news would please me, but I would like to know it is true!
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Jul 24, 2016 15:21:50 GMT
I have not heard anything outside of what I posted, plus that the series will be widely available all over the world, but screw you if you wanna see it in america, because you'll have to pay for a premium streaming service no one will want.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 24, 2016 16:56:25 GMT
I don't see that being an issue. Viewers outwith the US will have to pay a similar amount to watch it on the streaming service Netflix so access is on a parity. £6-9 monthly in the UK depending on what part of the service is signed up for.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jul 24, 2016 17:05:49 GMT
$1.50 a week to see a brand new flagship show is very reasonable. There is no automatic right to see anything made by a private company. Will be rolled into Netflix in the UK so perfect for me as already subscribe. Would be happy to subscribe just for this at that price.
Looking forward to seeing more details of the show. A name and a rough ship design not enough to go on currently to form any kind of opinion.
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 24, 2016 17:24:50 GMT
Im sure it was in an interview with Fuller that it was set in the prime timeline, but I can't remember were I read it.
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Post by legios on Jul 24, 2016 19:37:53 GMT
There is a lot of "chatter" referring to an interview where it was said that it was in the main continuity, but I've never actually seen the statement properly sourced. At the moment I'm treating that as unconfirmed, like what time-period it is sent in. The only thing I can think of that I've seen a definite statement on was that they hadn't said when it was set, they hadn't said where it was set (astrographically I mean) and that they'd never said it was an anthology show.
I think so far the only things we know for certain is that it will be on pay streaming services (CBS All Access in the US and Netflix in Europe), that it is called Star Trek Discovery, and that there is a Spaceship involved called Discovery. We can fairly safely conclude that it is set in the main timeline because CBS don't have any rights to the Kelvin Timeline material, and it seems like it would be too much effort to create a third timeline from a blank sheet when they've already got a fairly big toybox.
I for one actually quite like the look of the Discovery - she's a little bit of a blend of the traditional with the "Planet of the Titans" design study and I do think it works. The shallow draft, but long length of the secondary hull along with the return to a circular primary hull gives it a little bit of a forward-leaning look. It has a bit of a "sprinter" feel to it, which combined with the look of the engines kind of makes me think of speed. She's not up there with the Ambassador in terms of being an "unglamorous but practical" kind of girl, but I do like her. I think she's got a lot of good angles in visual terms and may well work quite well on-screen.
(*Smiles* I wonder if they will roll this into Cryptic's license for Star Trek Online. I think I'd be more inclined to have a Discovery class ship on one of my characters than I would the Evilprize that the movies folk have allowed them to license from them.)
Karl
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Post by legios on Jul 24, 2016 19:40:21 GMT
I have not heard anything outside of what I posted, plus that the series will be widely available all over the world, but screw you if you wanna see it in america, because you'll have to pay for a premium streaming service no one will want. Not really - it is in the same position as something like Daredevil or Jessica Jones. If I want to see them I have to pay to subscribe to a streaming service, but they aren't unavailable. I just can't justify the expenditure at the moment, so I can't see them currently. Star Trek Discovery will be in exactly the same boat. Karl |
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 24, 2016 20:10:09 GMT
Hmm seems it was just a list of rumours from a single website.
Set in Prime universe.
After Undiscovered Country.
Klingons are bad.
The trailer doesnt help with the first rumour. But the design does look pre TOS which would raise a question mark over rumour two. Unless the last rumour has something to do with the design of the ship which could allow for a later setting.
So we basically know nothing.
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Post by Toph on Jul 24, 2016 20:26:41 GMT
I don't see that being an issue. Viewers outwith the US will have to pay a similar amount to watch it on the streaming service Netflix so access is on a parity. £6-9 monthly in the UK depending on what part of the service is signed up for. -Ralph The thing is many of you already have netflix, hulu, and such. It'll be on all of them i think. Many us already have those as well. But STD (they did NOT think that through, I just realised) is not gonna be on any of them. It'll be exclusive to CBS's new service. Which no one wants. |
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Post by blueshift on Jul 24, 2016 20:33:31 GMT
That's how tv is going nowadays I think. Everyone wants their slice of the streaming pie and wants to become their own Netflix.
To watch Game of Thrones I had to sign up for Sky's streaming thing. Literally the only thing on there worth watching!
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 24, 2016 20:34:17 GMT
I don't have Netflix or any other streaming service. I will be taking up Netflix when Discovery starts so I can watch it.
If CBS own Star Trek I'm not surprised they want to put it on their streaming service. Many TV stations, whether terrestial, satellite, cable or online streaming make or purchase shows that are exclusive to them. The aim is to encourage people to sign up to their service. It's not a new thing unique to this new Trek show.
Even with Trek shows, in the US folk had to have UPN to see Voyager or Enterprise in their first-runs. Ultimately, if folk in the US don't want to watch the show they don't have to subscribe to CBS All Access. Same goes for international fans. The only difference is that it is on Netflix.
The initial press release only mentions Netflix outside the US (other than specifying where it is being shown in Canada).
I haven't heard of Hulu so I can't comment on that.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Jul 24, 2016 21:33:57 GMT
Actually, I am aware of a number of people who are going to be giving CBS All Access a go when it launches, so it is not accurate to say that no one wants it. Also, many people do indeed have Netflix, but man people also do not have Netflix. Just as many may have CBS All Access, and many may well not. For that matter, why shouldn't a TV Network make exclusive content to get people to purchase their service. It is exactly the same thing that Netflix has done. I don't really see a distinction here.
Karl
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Post by Bogatan on Jul 24, 2016 21:55:48 GMT
The big potential upside is that as the show will be fairly directly funded by Trek fans theres very little reason not to make a show aimed at them unlike the movies which understandably have to reach a broader market which often annoys the core fans.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 24, 2016 22:14:04 GMT
There's no such thing as free TV in the UK anyway due to the TV licence. Even the loophole where you don't have to buy one if you only view catch-up services is being closed in September.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 25, 2016 22:16:24 GMT
Well I'm not sure who I'll have to sleep with to see this show, but I'd hoped for something post TNG/DS9/Voyager. We need to see what's going on in that part of the universe!
I like the ship n'all.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 11, 2016 11:09:52 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 11, 2016 11:26:50 GMT
I'd like a NEXT Next Generation. 100 years in the future.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 11, 2016 12:16:13 GMT
It's what I wanted but I'm not getting it so I'll judge the new show on its own merits for what it is when it launches.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 11, 2016 13:29:32 GMT
I'll have to check Memory Alpha but if it's 10 years before Kirk takes over the Enterprise is that when April or Pike are in command? I'd be surprised if the 1701 doesn't pop up (but hopefully not in the first season).
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Aug 11, 2016 14:41:22 GMT
Memory Alpha states that Kirk took command of Enterprise at some point prior to the end of 2265. Pike's dates of command are given as 2251 to 2262. Therefore Kirk's date of command of the Enterprise is sometime between 2262 and 2265, depending on whether he directly succeeded Pike or only got the posting at the beginning of the Five Year Exploratory mission.
So, ten years before Kirk assumes command would put it somewhere between 2252 and 2255 - just missing April's command term and falling into the early period of Pike's.
Karl
(On a dissertation break. Trying to figure out my next move. So I went and did some Information Management. It is a Librarian's Apprentice thing :-)).
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Post by Toph on Aug 15, 2016 18:51:13 GMT
Okay so the new series is firmly when klingons are the bad guys.
There had *better* be an episode where klingons try to board the ship from the outside, so we can genuinely have this conversation:
"There are Klingons on the starboard bow, sir!"
"Come on, we better go scrape them off..."
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 15, 2016 18:57:11 GMT
Star Trekking now stuck in head, thank you kindly.
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Post by Toph on Aug 15, 2016 19:01:00 GMT
You're very welcome, Sir.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 29, 2016 17:29:52 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Aug 29, 2016 17:42:44 GMT
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo the RUBBISH timeline!!!! |
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 29, 2016 17:47:44 GMT
The timeline of 10 films and 700-odd episodes. Suits me.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Aug 29, 2016 17:47:56 GMT
The prime timeline is the original.
Prime means first.
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