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Post by The Doctor on Feb 28, 2020 18:40:24 GMT
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Post by Jim on Oct 16, 2020 22:38:09 GMT
Season 3 episode 1 is up! It was quite enjoyable, a lot of setting the scene for the new season but also told a complete story in itself. I don't know if Book is set to be a new regular cast member, but I liked him (and Grudge!) so wouldn't object. |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 17, 2020 17:06:58 GMT
Very boring. Can't say I am fond of the new doom and gloom direction. My attention wavered a lot. Hopefully it picks up next week but I can already tell I'm not keen on the arc plot.
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Post by Jim on Oct 23, 2020 23:24:25 GMT
Episode 2! Lost my enthusiasm a bit with this. It was all a bit predictable and reminded me of all the little things about Discovery that I don't like so much.
I'd forgotten that Giorgiou had gone with them to the future. I kind of wish she hadn't.
Offing Leland off-screen (with Trek's newfound fondness for extreme violence) felt like a waste.
I like Saru, but I'm already missing a captain with the charisma and presence of either Lorca or Pike.
I'm always fond of Tilly getting screen time, but even she wasn't served well by the script this time.
Episode 1 has "part 1" in the title, and this is not part 2 - are we looking at an intertwined narrative alternating between Michael's search for Discovery and the "present" (for want of a better word)? Maybe this is already established, I don't really follow Trek news...
"Parasitic Ice". Eek. It probably sounded cool to the writers, but would probably have best been replaced with a good old fashioned meaningless technobabble word. Or they could at least have had a go at explaining and selling the idea.
No, I didn't enjoy this much at all... Even the season 2 episode of Voyager I watched this week beats it handily...
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 24, 2020 11:38:20 GMT
Started well but lost my interest as it went on. S3 isn't doing much for me thus far compared to how into the show I was by this point in both of the previous seasons.
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 24, 2020 16:32:32 GMT
I was enjoying it but the end irratated me. {Spoiler}I like Burnham, but theres definitely a bit to much of her saving the day over the first two seasons. And I knew as I watch the last few minutes that "fans" were going to complain about her doing it again. Except thats not what happened. Yes she dragged them out of the ice but presumably 18 seconds later when they had shields and weapons they would have gotten out by themselves. but they were so concerned with creating the threat and then the twist of oh it Burnham that they almost accidentally and completely needlessly wrote themselves right in to the exact thing that is (rightly or wrongly) a major complaint against the show. They really do need to get a grip on what they want from Giorgiou. Unlike some I dont have a problem with here being attached to Burnham, the mirror universe was never about people incapable of love that were genetically evil. It was just a fucked up society. But if she is just going to be brought in each episode to do that bad thing that the rest of them wont then no. Stop doing that its tedious and undermines the whole point Saru is trying to make. Sure she didnt kill the bad space cowboy but by then she had already killed his posse, mostly after they stopped being threats. I would now guess the part 2 will be a flashback episode.  |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 31, 2020 14:46:19 GMT
Three episodes in...and I'm not enjoying it. I don't care at all for the new direction (very similar to one that was rejected when it was pitched in the 90's) and it's now suffering from Netflix Bloat. It took 3 episodes to do what other Trek shows could do in 1. Zzzzz.
Where has the pace and energy in this show gone? The cast are good and now they've (finally) got the set-up out of the way hopefully it can get going now. It is testing my patience as well, though, that characters keep meeting folk who tell them one vague thing about The Mystery. Ugh.
S1 was all over the place but had grabbed me by 3 episodes in. Loved s2 from the start. This is...not good tv.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 31, 2020 20:00:54 GMT
I find it good TV. An interesting new direction for Trek.
Some problems with pacing I agree, but Discovery has always had this problem.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 31, 2020 21:55:15 GMT
I think I'll skip the rest of this season for now.
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Post by Jim on Nov 2, 2020 22:46:06 GMT
I enjoyed this one a bit more than I expected, certainy more than episode 2. There were a few of the things I find irritating about Discovery - drawn out sentimental scenes especially - and I agree that it will be annoying if they keep finding ways to draw out the quest Yay, a Trill symbiont! But it can't yet fully access the memories of former hosts... but this episode felt a bit more punchy. Frakes is a good director. |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 3, 2020 11:51:01 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 3, 2020 23:43:21 GMT
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Post by Jim on Nov 8, 2020 23:07:46 GMT
I quite enjoyed episode 4. Not flawless - suffering a little from streaming bloat, I don't think this needed 55 minutes - but continues to be an improvement on the shaky start, and this one's sentimental moments felt much more earned than they often do (either that or I was more in the mood for it this evening).
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Post by Jim on Nov 14, 2020 22:46:46 GMT
Enjoyed episode 5 even more! The plot was a little predictable, but there was some nice character stuff in there, even for Giorgiou. And I don't know if it was particularly nicely paced, but it felt like it flew by, even for a 55 minute episode.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Nov 15, 2020 9:47:42 GMT
Agreed. Some very nice set design throughout as well I thought. Although I am getting increasingly puzzled at how 99% of Starfleet crews, United Earth space people, etc are all young people, with very few older or mid-range people about.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Dec 25, 2020 13:27:41 GMT
New episode today. Just wow. Great stuff. Season 3 might have finally found its stride.
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Post by Bogatan on Dec 27, 2020 11:02:09 GMT
Agreed. And probably a major reason for its working was that Burnham wasnt forced front and centre, meaning some of the rest of the crew got to be involved more than usual.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Dec 27, 2020 12:39:20 GMT
Love that make up job on Saru! He looks truly alien. |
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Post by Jim on Jan 3, 2021 0:18:25 GMT
Really enjoyed the latest episode, great balance between action and talking. Feels like the show has found its feet.
I hope the writers aren't going to be their usual bloodthirsty selves with the finale, there are characters here who I'd like to see survive to be built upon further. Ossyra is a wonderful villain.
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 3, 2021 14:14:50 GMT
Agreed. I saw people wanting her to show doubt about her violence and I was like nuhuh. Far more interesting for her to have no qualms about what she does because she believes her aims are justified. Shes the deliberate version of what Janeway accidentally became. Also Im still enjoying Admiral Vance. Spoiler
My main issue besides Burnham saves the day again, is the writers not giving events time to play out.
Adira is fine I like their relationship with Stammets and Culver, but I dont feel like they've gotten to the point were Stammets is calling them family.
They could have been, but Adira hasnt appeared in about half the episodes since they joined the crew and their ONE big episode on Trill had Culver dump them on Burnham (because of course) despite it being a medical situation.
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Post by Jim on Jan 4, 2021 11:23:09 GMT
Yes, I like Vance as well! With the way Picard / Discovery are written I've not been expecting him to survive the season, but fingers crossed he makes it through. Is there supposed to be some mystery around the identity of the Federation president, or did I miss a detail earlier in the season? They seem to be conspicuously off-screen, but I wasn't sure if we were supposed to take it that Vance is all there is.
I started to wonder with this episode, when Michael sent the message to her mum, if we're going to be moving to a time jump every season as the crew watches the Federation get back on its feet and helps out in key crisis moments. Though I'm not sure whether that would be more or less interesting than hanging around in 3189.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 6, 2021 14:12:49 GMT
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 6, 2021 16:16:50 GMT
Yes, I like Vance as well! With the way Picard / Discovery are written I've not been expecting him to survive the season, but fingers crossed he makes it through. Is there supposed to be some mystery around the identity of the Federation president, or did I miss a detail earlier in the season? They seem to be conspicuously off-screen, but I wasn't sure if we were supposed to take it that Vance is all there is.
I started to wonder with this episode, when Michael sent the message to her mum, if we're going to be moving to a time jump every season as the crew watches the Federation get back on its feet and helps out in key crisis moments. Though I'm not sure whether that would be more or less interesting than hanging around in 3189.
No theres definitely something going on with the President. It could be someone we know. I can only think a Dax, the backup EMH, some relation of Data or potentially after the events of Picard and despite what was said, Picard.
Or a distant relation of someone maybe, given Burnham, Spocks great grandchild would be a fairly obvious choice.
The only other options I can think of its someone who has travelled through time meaning they have to be kept under wraps, that could frankly be anyone, though the one with an existing set upthat springs to mind is Sisko and that would bring me so much joy. But a secret President doesnt really make any sense though. Or there is no President because The Federation/Starfleet is in far worse shape than they'll admit. Again Im not really sure how much sense that makes.
I hope they dont keep jumping. Im not sure how that benefits the show and trying to develope a new future isnt easy, Enterprise never managed to show a future I had the urge to spend any time in. Disco has so they should just work out what to do with it.
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 6, 2021 16:22:39 GMT
I love the Angelou class. Without knowing the idea behind it I immediately pictured it as a deep space vessel, the future equivilant of the Constitution class heading out on 5 or 10 year missions. But in a universe lacking dilithium its effectively designed to survive being lost in space indefinitely if it runs out of power. Or just to be a pleasant environment if it doesnt. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 6, 2021 16:35:48 GMT
Yes, I like Vance as well! With the way Picard / Discovery are written I've not been expecting him to survive the season, but fingers crossed he makes it through. Is there supposed to be some mystery around the identity of the Federation president, or did I miss a detail earlier in the season? They seem to be conspicuously off-screen, but I wasn't sure if we were supposed to take it that Vance is all there is.
I started to wonder with this episode, when Michael sent the message to her mum, if we're going to be moving to a time jump every season as the crew watches the Federation get back on its feet and helps out in key crisis moments. Though I'm not sure whether that would be more or less interesting than hanging around in 3189.
No theres definitely something going on with the President. It could be someone we know. I can only think a Dax, the backup EMH, some relation of Data or potentially after the events of Picard and despite what was said, Picard.
Or a distant relation of someone maybe, given Burnham, Spocks great grandchild would be a fairly obvious choice.
The only other options I can think of its someone who has travelled through time meaning they have to be kept under wraps, that could frankly be anyone, though the one with an existing set upthat springs to mind is Sisko and that would bring me so much joy. But a secret President doesnt really make any sense though. Or there is no President because The Federation/Starfleet is in far worse shape than they'll admit. Again Im not really sure how much sense that makes.
I hope they dont keep jumping. Im not sure how that benefits the show and trying to develope a new future isnt easy, Enterprise never managed to show a future I had the urge to spend any time in. Disco has so they should just work out what to do with it.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 10, 2021 18:18:53 GMT
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Post by Hero on Apr 11, 2021 14:21:01 GMT
Finally watching Discovery and enjoying it. Halfway through s2 and no rush to catch up just yet.
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Post by Toph on Aug 3, 2021 23:47:30 GMT
So season 3 is finally on dvd and in my possession, and I've rewatched season 2 to get ready.
And gosh I forgot how genuinely good the S2 finale really was.
It just...it beautifully captures that bittersweet optimism. A hopeful uncertainty. Just an amazing blending of melancholic emotions.
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Post by Toph on Aug 6, 2021 2:39:52 GMT
I'm almost through the third season, and I have thoughts. One of TNG's greatest failings was the introduction of the Ferengi as the next greatest threat. They were so ridiculous that they were downright comical, and not in a good way.
I think Disco could have finally realized this, and made them outright sinister while they were at it. There's nothing about Osira or the Emerald Chain that needed to be Orion based. She could have worked just as well, if not better, if she were a Ferengi woman.
Also I don't like the 31st Century Starfleet ships.
Not that I think they're ugly or don't work, but because floating detached nacelles can't be done up as toys or models!
I have been spoiled by Eaglemoss. I wants ships that can exist in my hand without magic! |
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Post by Toph on Aug 6, 2021 2:43:04 GMT
They really should have made V-J either Voyager Class, or Janeway Class |
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