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Post by Jim on Sept 12, 2017 19:57:31 GMT
It isn't working for me; the only parts which stand out and sound like part of a memorable theme are the ones homaging the original at the beginning and end. The main bit is perfectly competent, but not remotely iconic.
Not that I think it matters that much; Voyager had a great theme and beautiful opening credits. But it was still Voyager.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 16, 2017 21:31:51 GMT
Is Discovery dumping all at once, or is it an episode a week?
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Post by blueshift on Sept 16, 2017 21:37:35 GMT
Is Discovery dumping all at once, or is it an episode a week? Pretty sure an ep a week |
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 16, 2017 21:51:48 GMT
Nice. Might have a go at trying to keep up with it then!
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 17, 2017 10:03:24 GMT
Is Discovery dumping all at once, or is it an episode a week? An episode a week though the first 2 episodes go up on the same day and there is a mid-season break. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 17, 2017 10:22:37 GMT
Arrrrrrrrrrrrgh. Avoid any reports of Frakes at a recent con. I accidentally clicked on half asleep and there was a big Discovery spoiler from the episode he directed. Said spoiler also made me sigh. Hopefully it is better in context.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Sept 17, 2017 14:41:05 GMT
Apparently Discovery has been rating TV-MA (the equivalent of an 18) and they're not letting anyone review it in advance.
Hold onto your seat, captain!
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 17, 2017 15:41:37 GMT
Phasers on kill then.
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Post by Toph on Sept 17, 2017 15:56:23 GMT
Hnnnn.
Not allowing critics to screen it in advance is *always* a bad sign.
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 17, 2017 17:01:56 GMT
I thought it had become more common with spoiler concerns on shows like Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead.
Or am I just imagining that?
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 17, 2017 17:14:40 GMT
You are not. That was the statement re: spoilers stated though amongst all the various promo pieces being pumped out for the show I can't find the source.
I've never seen a show which has had so much online hate directed at it before it starts. This puzzles me.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 17, 2017 17:15:38 GMT
Hnnnn. Not allowing critics to screen it in advance is *always* a bad sign. When it comes to feature films, that is often the case. I don't know if this 'rule' applies to TV shows though as I don't watch many of them. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 17, 2017 17:17:21 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Sept 17, 2017 17:28:01 GMT
Hnnnn. Not allowing critics to screen it in advance is *always* a bad sign. When it comes to feature films, that is often the case. I don't know if this 'rule' applies to TV shows though as I don't watch many of them. -Ralph They didn't let any advance reviews for Game of Thrones or Twin Peaks, IIRC, but in that situation it was because of spoilers because they were resolving high profile cliffhangers |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 17, 2017 17:43:15 GMT
Personally I like to avoid spoilers of new things before they are released anyway.
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 17, 2017 17:44:54 GMT
Which can be taken to mean the pilot has a big event/reveal that they dont want spoiling.
Kinda depressing to see people jump to the alternative conclusion, which may turn out ot be true, but as Ralph said the level of negativity towards the show is bit excessive.
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Post by Toph on Sept 17, 2017 18:05:00 GMT
Other than the ship design and the backstage drama, I've not been the least bit negative about the show itself.
It's just that "won't screen for critics" is nine times out of ten code for them not having faith in their product. It always kinda breaks my heart when that happens to something I'm looking forward to. Not that I'll ever get to see discovery, anyway.
I also don't buy the spoiler thing, because they screen movies with major spoilers all the time. And as a series premier, everything is a spoiler because everything is new.
I mean, non-disclosure agreements are a thing. And most professional critics generally have enough class and wherewithal to not spoil major plot points.
I mean there are always exceptions (Ebert and Rouper went on Leno and intentionally spoiled everything for The Village the night before it opened. So yeah, there are shitty exceptions), but usually most professional critics respect it.
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Post by blueshift on Sept 17, 2017 18:16:58 GMT
Yeah, I mean it's different. With existing shows, it's because there's a huge existing audience who will get really pissed if huge spoilers are revealed.
With new shows, you need as much publicity as possible. The entire point about pre-screenings for critics is to get people saying "wow this is great, watch this!"
At the least, it won't be as bad as Star Trek: Renegades!
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 17, 2017 18:30:22 GMT
Star Trek is an entertainment property that has been going since 1966 and has worldwide recognition. While far from its peak (arguably circa 1996) it is still well known enough in the general population that I doubt whether some reviews before it airs will make any difference whatever they say. Streaming shows are available in a different way from TV network shows which operate on a 'aired once then wait for a repeat' procedure. Less pressure on opening night figures/reviews.
What I would say though is that there appears to be little publicity for the show in the UK outwith the fan bubble/SF press/SF websites. Many folk I've spoken to only know there is a new show because I told them.
In any event we will see what the show is like in 7/8 days depending where folk live.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Sept 17, 2017 18:35:40 GMT
What I would say though is that there appears to be little publicity for the show in the UK outwith the fan bubble/SF press/SF websites. Many folk I've spoken to only know there is a new show because I told them. There's an older person at work who is a big Trek fan to the extent that they'd covered their desk in little Starfleet insignias. She had no idea there was a new show until I told her the other week! |
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Post by blueshift on Sept 17, 2017 18:36:23 GMT
(And that conversation was pretty much: "There's a new show coming" "OH!!" "It's a prequel" "Oh  " |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 18, 2017 6:56:19 GMT
Won't be watching any Discovery until early-mid October due to house moving so will be checking out of this thread until then to avoid any spoilers or opinions that may sway my initial viewing.
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Post by Jim on Sept 18, 2017 9:02:26 GMT
Oh, I should do the same - unless we could have a separate thread for Discovery, at least for the time being, so we can still appreciate other Trek?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 18, 2017 9:10:14 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 18, 2017 9:11:08 GMT
Boldly going where no Netflix show has gone before....
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Post by Jim on Sept 18, 2017 9:34:21 GMT
Ta!
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 18, 2017 9:54:01 GMT
Thanks!
Not sure there is need for post surgery. New thread will suffice fine for avoiding spoilers.
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Post by blueshift on Sept 18, 2017 10:40:08 GMT
I'm looking forward to being able to discuss a new show on a weekly basis with everyone!
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 18, 2017 11:20:10 GMT
RE: Spoilers. As the worldwide release of episode is only 1 day after the US gets them can we wait until 2 days after that for spoilers.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 18, 2017 19:17:45 GMT
You mean we get new episodes on Mondays, so no spoilers til Wednesdays?
I reckon this'll be a Friday night treat for me.
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