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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 13, 2018 10:18:31 GMT
I don't know who you are anymore.
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Post by Llama God on Oct 13, 2018 10:33:03 GMT
Okay, so I'm going to try doing this based purely on the look of the toys in the catalogues alone... although I'll probably fail.
Right off the bat (no I don't have anyone on my mind) it's not going to be Rewind and Eject - the robot modes just aren't as interesting-looking as Frenzy/Rumble (don't tell the conjunx!). Also (and I'm already going off-mission here) when I finally got hold of Eject from the SDCC reissue it just wasn't as good to transform as the original tape-bots.
That leaves us with the three animal cassettes - and let's face it, 'bots with animal "main" modes are always going to be better. Ramhorn and Steeljaw are both great looking toys - from the side. When you actually see them face on they're disappointingly thin. Which is no surprise for something that turns into a cassette, but still - you don't get the sense of power from either that the characters demand (and that they avoided with Ravage by making him a spy).
So that leaves us with Ratbat. Avoiding the thin-ness issue by making him unfold into a winged creature solves that problem, and hey, he's a purple bat. That was always going to win with me before his Marvel depiction - which is just the icing on the cake, really. The batty rat it is!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 13, 2018 10:42:11 GMT
Right off the bat (no I don't have anyone on my mind) it's not going to be Rewind and Eject - the robot modes just aren't as interesting-looking as Frenzy/Rumble (don't tell the conjunx!). Perfectly fine to like what someone has done with the character even if the original toy isn't that good! Also (and I'm already going off-mission here) when I finally got hold of Eject from the SDCC reissue it just wasn't as good to transform as the original tape-bots. Here is one of their biggest problems: they do invite direct comparison with Rumble & Frenzy! That leaves us with the three animal cassettes - and let's face it, 'bots with animal "main" modes are always going to be better. Trypticon wants to know why you voted Metroplex last week! Yep. It's the only possible choice. Sorry Trypticon, much as I love you... you're not Metroplex. |
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Post by Llama God on Oct 13, 2018 10:58:22 GMT
Right off the bat (no I don't have anyone on my mind) it's not going to be Rewind and Eject - the robot modes just aren't as interesting-looking as Frenzy/Rumble (don't tell the conjunx!). Perfectly fine to like what someone has done with the character even if the original toy isn't that good! Ah, but she's also a massive fan of all the tape-bots. Well, all the Autobot ones. The fact that Roberts has written Rewind so well on top of that was a bonus. Trypticon wants to know why you voted Metroplex last week! Because I'm nothing if not not always true to myself! :-P |
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 13, 2018 11:03:14 GMT
No. *Vibrates in Shockprowl's Prowl collection as punishment* Steady on! |
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Post by reilly2040 on Oct 13, 2018 16:23:41 GMT
An interesting one this. I've never actually seen any of these in person. If I was factoring in the comics personality then it'd be an easy win for Ratbat (and I love his Masterpiece version). However, going purely by the catalogue picture, I'm mostly drawn to Ramhorn, so if I was picking one up off the shelves back in the day, then it'd probably be him.
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 13, 2018 16:53:19 GMT
VOTE FANG NOT HORN!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 14, 2018 16:29:34 GMT
I have read the arguments, and my vote remains with Steeljaw. I haven't owned him so I don't know if he is good to play with or not, but I have owned Ratbat and thought he was poor compared to the other Deceps, with his tiny head and floppy ears, so I cannot vote for him.
Steeljaw and Ramhorn are the only two possible candidates for my vote, and it remains with Steeljaw because of Ravage.
Ravage is the almost undetectable spy/saboteur. Steeljaw is the ultimate tracker. Cat vs. cat. Therefore, Steeljaw is the most worthy addition to the TF line-up of these five offerings.
Martin
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 14, 2018 16:42:22 GMT
I think Martin's argument hits the nail right on the head.
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Post by The Huff on Oct 14, 2018 17:30:34 GMT
Jumping way ahead a bit, but when we get to the 1988 cassettes, will we be voting for the individual tapes or combiner duos separately?
And a more important question - why didn't they muddle up Rewind & Ejects colours in the cartoon just to keep THAT theme going?
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Post by Jaymz on Oct 14, 2018 20:21:03 GMT
Jumping way ahead a bit, but when we get to the 1988 cassettes, will we be voting for the individual tapes or combiner duos separately? Whichever way it's done, the other could be in the extra poll. I'd say combiner pair in the main poll, as that's the complete toy as it was sold, vote on individuals in the extras, but up to Phil at the end of the day. Hopefully it won't result in an illegal poll. |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 14, 2018 20:34:23 GMT
Down with illegal polls!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 14, 2018 20:57:50 GMT
Jumping way ahead a bit, but when we get to the 1988 cassettes, will we be voting for the individual tapes or combiner duos separately? 1988 Autobot Tapes, 1988 Decepticon Tapes, 1988 Combined Tape Robots. And a more important question - why didn't they muddle up Rewind & Ejects colours in the cartoon just to keep THAT theme going? Because it was originally a cock up and not intentional |
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Post by The Huff on Oct 14, 2018 21:06:28 GMT
Because it was originally a cock up and not intentional But it would have been more fun! |
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Post by Llama God on Oct 15, 2018 6:21:05 GMT
But they knew we'd be expecting it!
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Post by The Huff on Oct 15, 2018 7:12:26 GMT
I's say they came up with the Cyclonus thing for that year instead, but I've never seen where the contention or confusion was there.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 15, 2018 7:49:42 GMT
Cyclonus thing?
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Post by The Huff on Oct 15, 2018 9:11:48 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 16, 2018 22:22:48 GMT
In theory Ratbat can be beaten.....
... but only if we break the record number of voters in one of these polls!
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 17, 2018 8:05:46 GMT
Im kind of stumped on this one. While I now agree Eject and Rewind are not as good as Rumble and Frenzy I got Rewind and Steeljaw on the same day I got Frenzy and Ratbat from a market stall in the early 90s. I have far more memory of playing with Rewind than I do Frenzy. I think maybe the arms are better for me.
Rat Bat was kind of fun, but mostly I remember liking him because it was easy to keep him standing thanks to his wings. Steeljaw was always fun. Maybe its because I didn't have ramhorn till so much later but I do remember thinking he might have been better than Steeljaw when I poured over the US catalogue I owned thanks to Broadside.
So, yeah. Stumped, but as I seem to be in the anyone but Ratbat camp it really doesnt appear to matter.
And now looking at images of them I do think they nailed flat Rhino more than flat Lion.
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 17, 2018 17:42:26 GMT
Just reposting this for User 3's benefit- |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 18, 2018 14:48:50 GMT
Vote with the red heart of love, not the purple of erm.. erm.. illness?
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 18, 2018 16:36:38 GMT
Purple can be the colour of love too....
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 18, 2018 18:06:52 GMT
Bad Shockprowl.
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 18, 2018 19:45:13 GMT
What?! I was talking about penises!
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 18, 2018 19:52:12 GMT
Oh well that's alright then.
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Post by legios on Oct 18, 2018 20:17:02 GMT
In the end I voted Steeljaw - he's a lion cassette, and I have a greater affection for felines than for bats - and I think he is one of the most enjoyable toys of this batch to fiddle about with.
Karl
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 18, 2018 20:18:35 GMT
Come on the Steeljaw! only five more votes by midnight!
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 18, 2018 20:19:40 GMT
In the end I voted Steeljaw - he's a lion cassette, and I have a greater affection for felines than for bats - and I think he is one of the most enjoyable toys of this batch to fiddle about with. Karl
NNNNOOOOOOO!!!!! THE PURPLE WEAPON OF VENGEANCE WILL, ERR, HAVE VENGEANCE UPON YOU!!!!!! |
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Post by legios on Oct 18, 2018 20:20:58 GMT
You're setting the accountant on me? Shall I then be bean=counted to death?!
I think not!
Karl
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