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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 25, 2014 7:56:53 GMT
Ok. Size-wise that works for me. He's on the small size, but he's ok.
I... erm, I'm not sure I'm liking that robot mode at all, you know. I don't like the head/face. The 3P offering is in the lead for me, blue window or no blue window.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 25, 2014 8:04:06 GMT
Where are those excellent photos Sifu took of the 3P Bumblebee?
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Post by Llama God on Mar 25, 2014 9:40:24 GMT
He's tiny! But then we always expected him to be, with the rigid adherence to Masterpiece scale, and all. What'd really like to see is a comparison of his vehicle mode compared to the other cars. And then a comparison of both modes compared to the already-very-nice Classics release.
I really should pre-order this guy before I talk myself out of it with logic or something...
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Post by Nigel on Mar 25, 2014 10:04:26 GMT
You know what? All that picture does for me is make me realise that I don't care about scale in Masterpiece. Transformers have never been in scale anyway. I want a foot-tall, super-articulated, metal Bumblebee, like Masterpiece used to be. (But, yes, it does look nice.)
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Post by Stomski on Mar 25, 2014 10:46:36 GMT
If vehicle mode is in scale, then fine, but I don't think it will be. Needs to be a head taller.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 25, 2014 15:37:13 GMT
Yes, I agree, Stom, he's just too small. As Llama says, a comparison to Classics would be interesting.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 25, 2014 16:29:26 GMT
Been looking at Toyworld's 'Bii' on line. Both figures appear to be a similar size, although there are no direct comparisons out there. That would appear to put them about the same height as Classics Bumblebee, perhaps a smidge shorter even, and Bii in particular looks alot less bulky. I have say I am moving toward Bii. In robot mode, his styling is more 'cartoony', perhaps too cartoony for some, but it's friendlier somehow, nicer in the face, and looks in keeping with MP Prime and Prowl, and the blue window isn't bothering me as much since first I saw him in Sifu's photos. MP Bumblebee looks more like an Alternity figure as someone's already said. Not as smooth or simplistic in robot mode as Bii. Vehicle mode, well Bii is very cartoony, with his deformed car form. Works for me, very G1 toy-like and nostalgic, but stands out against the more acurate MP cars quite a bit. As a robot mode displayer this wouldn't bother me though, I don't think.
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Post by Stomski on Mar 25, 2014 17:16:21 GMT
Y'know I don't think we can judge this figure until we see it in Yellow. I think the paint will soften the headsculpt a lot and hide a lot of the engineering lines causing the robot to feel a little disjointed.
Although Classics Bumblebee headsculpt is so perfect, will be tough to top.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 25, 2014 17:31:15 GMT
Good point Stom. We need some colour pics definately.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 22:44:21 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 25, 2014 23:22:00 GMT
Please sir! And Mania King! Don't so much need photos, more some thoughts on build with a view to how good not Cykill might be.
On topic - the car mode will be silly small surely? Robot mode is the right height, but I agree, we need to see it painted up. I do think because of the SD nature of the original this is an impossible toy to get right in the MP style, the two are just at odds. So I'm not surprised they are going for getting the robot mode the right height. whether it actually looks right though... Jury's out.
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Post by Jim on Mar 25, 2014 23:42:52 GMT
That was my first thought, too - a VW Beetle isn't that much smaller than a Datsun! Seeing as they're working off of the old character model size chart though, they'll be favouring robot mode.
I quite like the look of him so far, but agree it would be nice to see some colour pics. The face isn't great, but if I'm paying out for this I'll also be looking for the Amazon-exclusive mask and he'll pretty much be permanently wearing it anyway!
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 26, 2014 8:05:19 GMT
Fantastic, Sifu, thank you! Excellent. Yes I think Bii looks perfect in robot mode with the other MPs. Something about his more simplistic smoother design that works.
And I look forward to the other reviews when you get chance, sir. Real Life is annoying when one has better things to do! Like play with Transforners!
Bii is in the lead with this handsome young Transformers collector! But colour pics of the MP are urgently required.
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Post by Toph on Mar 26, 2014 9:40:36 GMT
That was my first thought, too - a VW Beetle isn't that much smaller than a Datsun! Seeing as they're working off of the old character model size chart though, they'll be favouring robot mode. -Jim I've grown up with a beetle, and my first girlfriend's dad is a Nissan/Datsun Z enthusiast and collector. So I've been around a classic Fairelady. I have to say the beetle is actually a bit larger than the Zs are. Jazz' porshe wouldn't be much bigger that Prowl, if at all. Beetles were tiny cars back in the sixties and early seventies, but back then an average car was a land yacht. But in modern times, they're pretty average sized. So yeah. I get tired of the myth that bumblebee has to be half the size of cars he should be bigger than, because "beetles are tiny." Funny thing is, given the way 'bee transforms, he uses most of the car's size and expands it, by standing it on end. While cars like Prowl and Jazz collapse parts of it horizontally, not using the car's full size to add to the robot's height the same way 'bee, cliff, and hubcap do. Tracks, wheeljack, and sunstreaker, too. Honestly, the lambo brothers should be the largest. On par with the two pickups and vans. Lamborghinis are huge. |
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 26, 2014 23:19:18 GMT
Wonder if Toyworld could be persuaded to do a revision of Bii with transparent windows. Wouldn't even matter if it didn't display seats inside. I think that is all that stopped me impulse buying when it first came out.
Not until they've done another Headmaster though. That is officially a rule.
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Post by Llama God on May 15, 2014 14:13:58 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 15, 2014 16:05:14 GMT
TFW don't say but it looks like this and The Magnus picture are from the new Generations book. |
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Post by kayevcee on May 15, 2014 16:20:04 GMT
As with MP-10, SPIKE HAS NO EYES.
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Post by Pinwig on May 15, 2014 21:45:54 GMT
Hmmm. I'm thinking at the moment that Toyworld have the edge on this. It'd come down to build quality and finish once the figure is in hand.
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Post by Llama God on May 16, 2014 8:17:19 GMT
As with MP-10, SPIKE HAS NO EYES. Henceforth he shall be known as "Spke". I'll be very disappointed if no-one's done that "joke" before... |
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Post by Stomski on May 16, 2014 8:23:45 GMT
Love it, 9.5 Minibots / 5
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 9:58:25 GMT
Not sure where he got it from but my buddy on Facebook just listed this pic. It's a proper scan of the full page and shows the robot off nicely. One of my few niggles with Bii is the wheels folding under his feet. It's interesting to see the MP version shares the same mechanic. The scale next to MP-10 puts him bang-on though. |
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Post by Marc Graham on May 16, 2014 13:08:07 GMT
Hubba hubba.
Looking lovely....
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 22, 2014 5:32:04 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on May 22, 2014 8:50:55 GMT
Hmmmmm..... Not sure what I think of him......
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Post by The Doctor on May 22, 2014 11:44:44 GMT
The arms and legs are fine. Not keen on the face though.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on May 22, 2014 12:38:43 GMT
No me neither. I don't like his mid-area either. I just, dunno, feeling cold towards him and MP Magnus at the mo. Bit of a concern as MPs are my thing.
Looking again at the 3P Bii.
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Post by Shockprowl on May 22, 2014 12:40:46 GMT
Bumblebee's body looks too large for his too skinny arms and legs......
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Post by Llama God on May 22, 2014 13:45:17 GMT
I dunno. I still like Bumblebee, but... No, it's the face. I'm not keen on the face. Classics 'Bee had a great face. They should have just re-used that. I know that they're trying to capture that classic G1 cartoon look, but the G1 cartoon was mostly animated in sweat shops*, so, y'know...
(*This may or may not be true. But it wasn't exactly Disney.)
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Post by Pinwig on May 22, 2014 20:48:08 GMT
Body does look very bulky for those skinny legs. Hmm. I'm going by the fact that's still a prototype. Not that the figure will change but the finish on the production version should be more polished, might get rid of that thick back line round the edge of the face.
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