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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 27, 2014 16:44:57 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 27, 2014 16:46:21 GMT
Let me throw a suggestion out there:
TakaraTomy boxsets
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 27, 2014 20:13:36 GMT
I'm wondering if Hasbro haven't shot their bolt early having Megatron as a Leader tank because I woudln't half mind a Voyager Megatron tank as a combiner core.
Really want that Voyager Op with a bunch of combiner limbs
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Post by blueshift on Jul 27, 2014 20:23:07 GMT
I'm wondering if Hasbro haven't shot their bolt early having Megatron as a Leader tank because I woudln't half mind a Voyager Megatron tank as a combiner core. Really want that Voyager Op with a bunch of combiner limbs I would put money on us getting a Megatron repaint from one of the later wave Voyagers, especially since we've had a Prime now. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 27, 2014 20:45:38 GMT
Oh I hope so n'all. I think you're right, Big Phil, this Leader class Megatron doesn't fit now with Prime being a combiner core.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 27, 2014 21:24:49 GMT
I'm wondering if Hasbro haven't shot their bolt early having Megatron as a Leader tank because I woudln't half mind a Voyager Megatron tank as a combiner core. Really want that Voyager Op with a bunch of combiner limbs Oh yes... Imagine that. The fanfic writes itself as they say. Mind you, Prime combining might be the only way for him to overcome the supersized Megs. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 27, 2014 21:29:24 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 27, 2014 21:53:23 GMT
It'd be the icing on the cake if he does.
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Post by Llama God on Jul 27, 2014 21:57:36 GMT
Looks more like AoE Galvatron's chest decoration to me. Which would be fitting, given his similarity to Motormaster...
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 27, 2014 21:59:03 GMT
Really want that Voyager Op with a bunch of combiner limbs Which limbs would be your first choice limbs for combiner Optimus? Any of them. I love the idea of Prime being a rogue element in the Combining world that can combine with any limbs to produce a Super Mode Prime |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 27, 2014 22:02:01 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2014 6:46:16 GMT
Ah! Cracked why the back of that vehicle opens up: at least one of the heads, probably the combined mode one, is stored in there.
And the doors on the inside of the legs I couldn't quite see the function for the other day? Combined mode hands/feet hidden within.
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Post by legios on Jul 28, 2014 18:44:51 GMT
We're denied here because we don't get the Generations toys. That would give you some fun in the toy aisle. Imagine next year being able to walk into a supermarket to see which combiner limbs are on the pegs... how awesome would that be. 1986 all over again. Just not going to happen here. That is pretty much why I haven't got particularly excited about next years line. I am unlikely to see them on shelves anywhere for sale, and I do not know that I am going to be in a financial position to import them sight unseen - and even that I would be willing to do that these days with Transformers stuff, so I find it hard to get enthused about toys that it is not going to be practical for me to buy. Karl |
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 28, 2014 19:40:29 GMT
Ah! Cracked why the back of that vehicle opens up: at least one of the heads, probably the combined mode one, is stored in there. And the doors on the inside of the legs I couldn't quite see the function for the other day? Combined mode hands/feet hidden within. No way! Head, hands and feet all sorted away?!?!!! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 28, 2014 19:47:15 GMT
Ah! Cracked why the back of that vehicle opens up: at least one of the heads, probably the combined mode one, is stored in there. And the doors on the inside of the legs I couldn't quite see the function for the other day? Combined mode hands/feet hidden within. No way! Head, hands and feet all sorted away?!?!!! I think so. Can you find a better purpose for these opening panels? |
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 28, 2014 20:29:41 GMT
No way! Head, hands and feet all sorted away?!?!!! I think so. Can you find a better purpose for these opening panels? Maybe it's where they keep their keys, and loose change? Storage of combiner parts would be fantastic!!!! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 10, 2014 15:57:43 GMT
The video shown at the Hasbro Botcon presentation has surfaced online:
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 10, 2014 16:18:42 GMT
I love the way they're presenting that as if interchangeable limbs is an idea they've just come up with...
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Post by Toph on Aug 10, 2014 16:27:47 GMT
I'd prefer if they didn't interchange at all. Legs always stayed legs, and arms always arms. That way they don't have to work out a fourth mode.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 10, 2014 16:36:29 GMT
It's a nice gimmick, but yes I agree. Then the legs could be different shapes to the arms and you could get a better overall look for the gestalt mode.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 10, 2014 18:57:05 GMT
In both cases here the Legs and Arms are different shapes. The legs generally are the vehicles,with bitsfolded back to expose the connection points.
I'd rather they were both legs and arms in a homage like this: I wouldn't want some Hasbro designer coming to a different conclusion as to if a certain character should be an arm or a leg.
And it is a direct homage of Scramble City so the limbs do rather need to be both.
Just looking at it I think these are the best attempt at a combining system since the original Scramble City
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 10, 2014 19:22:40 GMT
I agree Big Phil, these are homages and they should stay faithful to the originals. Plus I actually imagine it's easier for them to design them like that, all having a similar base. I would not, however, like them to start messing with Devastator, who has fixed positions for his components. All being interchangeable makes customising your own Super Robot a dream come true!
End of the day, I'm just thrilled we're getting them! Voyager leaders, just makes all the difference.
Freakin' roll on 2015, baby!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 10, 2014 19:43:37 GMT
I've seen it suggested elsewhere doing a homage to Energon Wing Saber in this series: a robot that splits into 4 combiner parts. I like this idea. |
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Post by Toph on Aug 10, 2014 19:50:44 GMT
The thing is now it's significantly different than it was in the eighties.
The limbs then barely had two and a half modes. Arm and leg modes were identical, save for a couple extending the robot legs in arm. And limb modes were but a slight variation of vehicle mode.
Fast forward to now, fans ask for integrated hands/feet, fully posable legs, and fully posable arms.
That is four fully functioning alternate modes out of each deluxe. And the current design team aren't exactly hasbro's star players.
I don't dispute that these are the best looking scramble city styled combiners since the originals. But it's not hard to improve over the energon combiners, or the abomination that is foc bruticus.
Dumping the integrated hands/feet was a good start.
Also, as long as you're engineering from the start, there's no reason Devastator limbs can't be the same style connectors as the rest of them.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 10, 2014 20:28:19 GMT
I wonder how long it will be till we see a 3P limb bot using those connectors?
Another problem is fans want more articulation from today's combiners: elbows, biceps and knees.
The knees look easy to do: house the connector on a hinge of some sort on the bottom of the core robot's lower leg, which forms the combined robot's upper leg. Job done. The arm articulation has to be done inside the limb though as the arm is all made up of the limb robot.
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Post by Toph on Aug 10, 2014 20:34:24 GMT
Right. That's exactly what I was trying to say in a nutshell.
And I'm pretty sure 3P limbs will pop up soon. I predict we'll have word of a jet Slingshot and a car wildrider before '16.
And whomever gets relegated to being a repaint instead of a new mold in future combiners
All this time, I still think Fansproject Bruticus upgrades are the best looking combiner done.
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 10, 2014 22:14:28 GMT
What do you think they'll do with Groove?
Groove is where even the bonkers 'scale' of G1 breaks down and looks daft.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 13, 2014 16:30:38 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 13, 2014 16:44:41 GMT
Nice work, Big Phil, that's much better! It was getting alittle messy in the Genertions thread. You have a steady hand, Surgeon Commander Phil!
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 13, 2014 18:07:01 GMT
The thing is now it's significantly different than it was in the eighties. The limbs then barely had two and a half modes. Arm and leg modes were identical, save for a couple extending the robot legs in arm. And limb modes were but a slight variation of vehicle mode. Fast forward to now, fans ask for integrated hands/feet, fully posable legs, and fully posable arms. That is four fully functioning alternate modes out of each deluxe. And the current design team aren't exactly hasbro's star players. I don't dispute that these are the best looking scramble city styled combiners since the originals. But it's not hard to improve over the energon combiners, or the abomination that is foc bruticus. Dumping the integrated hands/feet was a good start. Also, as long as you're engineering from the start, there's no reason Devastator limbs can't be the same style connectors as the rest of them. Being a little harsh on the design team aren't you? I don't know when the new team took over completely but the past year has seen a generations line full of great work. Yes the movie line seems to be a disaster but also seems to have been the brief from higher up. Even then the dinobots and evasion Prime at least seem popular. Even if the combiners are the first work they had done in the genrations lines I wouldn't say it was a step down from what we've seen recently. And that Silverbolt looks like it will compare very favourably to Universe one from 2009. Is it 4 complete alternative modes? Legs seem to be vehicle modes with a connector port revealed and a foot plugged in. Arm mode is more complex but basically every deluxe with waist swivel is half way towards being a functional arm. All they need is a shoulder joint attached to the connector which can be fitted into a hollow chest. At worst it slightly limits the types of transformation schemes they can use. Personally I'm glad they kept the arms and leg option for each, apart from the homage it makes for better play value as a combiner and as individual figures (the arm function requiring a certain level of articulation). Separate hand/feet parts is a big bonus and I even kind of like the piece transforms from one to the other. |
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