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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 21, 2014 18:36:12 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 21, 2014 18:42:17 GMT
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Post by Bogatan on Jun 21, 2014 18:51:52 GMT
Sounding good.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 21, 2014 18:52:33 GMT
All sounding very interesting!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 21, 2014 19:58:40 GMT
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Post by Toph on Jun 21, 2014 20:08:36 GMT
Oh good lord, that prime looks terrible.
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Post by Bogatan on Jun 21, 2014 21:33:34 GMT
Wait! What? That Prime is a voyager? Really? Really really? I thought it was pretty poor when I thought it was another legends toy.
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Post by Jaymz on Jun 21, 2014 23:24:27 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 22, 2014 5:47:53 GMT
FRAKKIN' SILHOUETTES!!!!!
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 22, 2014 6:55:09 GMT
So, that Optimus is Leader as well?
*shudders*
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 22, 2014 7:04:25 GMT
No Op is a Voyager, as is Brainstorm
Op's growing on me.
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Post by Llama God on Jun 22, 2014 22:19:11 GMT
Someone on TFW noted that the new Prime has a sort of G2 comic vibe about him. He's not wrong and it makes me like it a little more. Yes, but if you are going G2, go all-out G2. The face reminds me of something comic-related, but I'm not quite sure what. Ooooh, oooh, yes! It looks like the Combat Hero version of Optimus Prime, as depicted by Geoff Senior. Which actually didn't look much like the actual Combat Hero toy, but there you go. Yeah, that's pretty close. Dammit. Now that G2 parallel has been drawn I want that figure. Well. I was going to buy it anyway. Of course I was. Now I have a retro-fitted justification. Hurrah!
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Post by blueshift on Jun 22, 2014 22:53:04 GMT
Ooooh, oooh, yes! It looks like the Combat Hero version of Optimus Prime, as depicted by Geoff Senior. Which actually didn't look much like the actual Combat Hero toy, but there you go. Yeah, that's pretty close. No, the head's completely wrong, and the body (and especially arms) are way too bulky. The head actually reminds me of something I've seen before, but I can't put my finger on it.
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Post by Toph on Jun 22, 2014 23:03:12 GMT
It reminds me of the hero mashers
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 24, 2014 20:28:18 GMT
Interesting theory I heard on RFC's botcon roundup. Hasbro have hinted that the general theme for Generations 2015 is combiners, and that at the panel they said they had 4 Voyagers and 16 deluxes they could not yet name or reveal on top of what was shown... So, would that make 4 combiners with voyager torsos?
It sounds too much like all eggs in one basket to me as that's a lot of releases over a long period. But it would also be a shot at the 3P market dominated by combiners and maybe Hasbro have learned from FoC Bruticus? They said the Generations line is popular with retailers so they're intending to keep expanding it.
Apparently when asked, a Hasbro official also said the only sub group of transformers that the Thrilling 30 line won't touch on is Pretenders. Forgotten who it was they were talking to.
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Post by Llama God on Jun 24, 2014 20:39:03 GMT
Damn. I really wanted an updated Pretender.
No, really. They were great toys. Well. They were a crazy idea, but implemented mostly as bricks. I'd love to see a well-articulated action figure that contained a well-articulated robot with a decent transformation. Really. I'm sad now.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 24, 2014 21:10:39 GMT
A good modern Pretender would be fascinating.
Thanks for the info there, Pinwig, very interesting. Combiners, eh? Well, every TF fan loves a good combiner. Let's see what you got, Hasbro!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 21:57:41 GMT
Yes! My niche custom market is safe for now.
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 24, 2014 22:05:45 GMT
It was Mark Webber they were mentioning having talked to, not that I know who he is. He also said that they like the idea of completing sets of figures, implying that there'll be a Legends Skywarp to go with Starscream and Thundercracker, and from that the podcast people were extrapolating that there'll be a Kickback after Bombshell too. Guesses, but sensible ones.
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Post by Toph on Jun 24, 2014 22:17:45 GMT
Interesting theory I heard on RFC's botcon roundup. Hasbro have hinted that the general theme for Generations 2015 is combiners, and that at the panel they said they had 4 Voyagers and 16 deluxes they could not yet name or reveal on top of what was shown... So, would that make 4 combiners with voyager torsos? It sounds too much like all eggs in one basket to me as that's a lot of releases over a long period. But it would also be a shot at the 3P market dominated by combiners and maybe Hasbro have learned from FoC Bruticus? They said the Generations line is popular with retailers so they're intending to keep expanding it. Apparently when asked, a Hasbro official also said the only sub group of transformers that the Thrilling 30 line won't touch on is Pretenders. Forgotten who it was they were talking to. Hopefully they didn't learn the wrong thing. FoC Bruticus is a lesson in how *not* to do combiners.
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 24, 2014 22:41:06 GMT
That's what I meant, if they do the torso as a voyager that would help massively with the, er, mass. And solidity. It's an exciting idea. I'd love it to be true.
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Post by Toph on Jun 24, 2014 23:36:50 GMT
It would also help a lot if they do away with the scramble city aspect. It's a nice thought, but it doesn't work with the level of complexity they're doing with these. They could still make universal connections, and make them right/left swappable, though.
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Post by Kingoji on Jun 25, 2014 7:17:31 GMT
Even if the actual combiner gimmick is badly executed, most special teams have members I'd love to see updated anyway. A new Motormaster would be amazing, combiner or not. As would actual G1-inspired Terrorcons.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 25, 2014 8:43:14 GMT
'Classic' Terrorcons would be great to see. As would any scramble city team. But a voyager in the middle is a must, otherwise it just doesn't look right.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 25, 2014 13:27:44 GMT
Terrorrcons is an interesting possibility as they've been in two IDW titles recently.....
HMMM, if you take the "look at what IDW have done" route which is frequently a good way of making predictions:
Aerialbots & Constructicons in RID Monstructor in Dark Cybertron All 5 Protectorbots on the Lost Light
Superion might have to be a bit special to get me interested though.
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Post by legios on Jun 25, 2014 16:37:00 GMT
I'd be quite interested to see them play around a bit with combiners. I suspect that they won't, and it will just be a case of new versions of existing Scramble City-type characters. But the Mini-con combiner did at least introduce a bit of a different approach to things, and I'd love them to go back and take some inspiration from the various Brave lines and things and give us some different approaches to combining teams.
Karl
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 25, 2014 20:35:56 GMT
Very good point about IDW. I think of those teams the one I'd like to see most is Devastator in the thrilling 30 style, but he wouldn't need a voyager.
Thing is if they do come out as purely deluxe teams, 3P will give us a voyager replacement like Microblaze are intending to do for FoC Bruticus. Their Onslaught looks pretty sweet.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 24, 2014 8:08:50 GMT
I do hope that Brainstorm in the pictures is a production figure, the blue looks so much better than the one in the packshot we had recently. Still tempted by Sunstorm. I wonder if Hasbro have kept anything back for this - will we know the format for the combiners tonight do you think? see the Superion they hinted at at Botcon? I'm dying to know if the leaders really are going to be voyagers. I think we may well see Superion and that'll take up most of the Generations reveals. I suspect there may be more AoE than Generations revealed here.
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Post by Nigel on Jul 24, 2014 15:43:36 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 24, 2014 16:18:24 GMT
They're looking pretty rough at the moment but there's tremendous potential there. Definitely Voyagers in the middle, good move.
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