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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 2, 2018 23:49:41 GMT
I know. I jest. I don't get this fan love of Ackbar. Just when you think you know someone... *turns away from FortMax2002* |
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Post by legios on Feb 3, 2018 18:52:02 GMT
Has everyone seen this film now? When can I start opening complaining about Admiral Akbar's death  I like the character fine, but I was ok with the manner of their death. This is a war. Death can come suddenly and without warning. It does to many supporting characters across the various Star Wars films, and rarely is it dwelt on. Truth be told, that is what that character is - he is a supporting character and therefore doesn't have the "plot armour" of a main character. Main Characters can only die when it is significant to the plot. Supporting characters, on the other hand, might die at any moment. Especially in a pulp adventure story where everyone who hangs around for more than one scene is at risk of finding themselves in a death-defying situation at any moment... Karl |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 3, 2018 23:39:04 GMT
I think the moment for that character would have worked fine if another character who appeared to be offed in the same incident hadn't suddenly displayed Super Power they showed no indication of before or after! I still find that moment to be hilarious. It's not meant to be though.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Feb 3, 2018 23:59:38 GMT
I think the moment for that character would have worked fine if another character who appeared to be offed in the same incident hadn't suddenly displayed Super Power they showed no indication of before or after! I still find that moment to be hilarious. It's not meant to be though. -Ralph Oh yeah, that looked awful. But woe betide anyone complaining about it online!! |
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 6, 2018 7:49:34 GMT
Has everyone seen this film now? When can I start opening complaining about Admiral Akbar's death I like the character fine, but I was ok with the manner of their death. This is a war. Death can come suddenly and without warning. It does to many supporting characters across the various Star Wars films, and rarely is it dwelt on. Truth be told, that is what that character is - he is a supporting character and therefore doesn't have the "plot armour" of a main character. Main Characters can only die when it is significant to the plot. Supporting characters, on the other hand, might die at any moment. Especially in a pulp adventure story where everyone who hangs around for more than one scene is at risk of finding themselves in a death-defying situation at any moment... Karl I hear what ya saying, Karlos, but the character in question is a worthy 'Fan Favorite' and a pretty imaginative and memorable character (despite what Fortmax2002 says). His death was poorly handled. He deserved something a bit better. |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Feb 6, 2018 13:42:18 GMT
The new films should be about new things, not just nodding back to the old ones for this or that character to get another 'worthy' scene or not.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 6, 2018 13:59:01 GMT
Well I felt TLJ was trying to do something new, far more than TFA. I just personally found the way it went about it to be a bit boring but I can't fault the effort.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Feb 6, 2018 17:12:21 GMT
The new films should be about new things I totally agree, which is why they irritate me so much for returning to the old Empire / Rebellion / Death Star / young Jedi in training / cute droid formula rather than go in a completely new direction for the Star Wars Galaxy following ROTJ. I'd have been quite happy if none of the classic characters had appeared in the post-ROTJ films. Martin |
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Post by legios on Feb 6, 2018 20:52:26 GMT
I hear what ya saying, Karlos, but the character in question is a worthy 'Fan Favorite' and a pretty imaginative and memorable character (despite what Fortmax2002 says). His death was poorly handled. He deserved something a bit better. He found redemption for his mistakes, and sacrificed himself in order that those he cared about - his sister, and the student who had dragged him from his morass of guilt and helped him to come to terms with his own fallibility - could live... He died at a time of his choosing, giving his life in a manner he chose that was in service of others. How much better a way to die is there? Karl |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Feb 6, 2018 23:19:21 GMT
Well I felt TLJ was trying to do something new, far more than TFA. I just personally found the way it went about it to be a bit boring but I can't fault the effort. -Ralph It's main thrust was certainly new even if I think it's carrying out was not great. I feel TFA was the place to nod and wink to all the past side characters from before. But... move on. It's a bit like in Trek when that bloke's friend's cousin 'happens' to be the governor of that colony of the week. The Galaxy is too big for things like that. |
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Post by Stomski on Apr 9, 2018 7:57:05 GMT
What BD/DVD promos have people found? I've only spotted a free book deal at Sainsbury's.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 9, 2018 20:52:11 GMT
What is the free book? The Sainsburgeries website does not state in the entry for the product.
-Ralph
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Post by Stomski on Apr 10, 2018 7:52:40 GMT
Reports from various sites are that it's a novelisation of the film for a younger audience.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 14, 2018 22:50:44 GMT
Blu ray acquired.
Not yet had the time to sit down and watch it though.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 14, 2018 23:08:08 GMT
Monday, when there's some spare cash.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Apr 15, 2018 5:24:36 GMT
I have no intention of watching this film a second time.
Can't wait for Solo though.
Martin
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 15, 2018 22:57:58 GMT
Sat down and watched it this evening.
Still really liked it, actually enjoyed it more on a second viewing. The pacing issues didn't bother me as much this time around.
I hope the wee Porgs on the Falcon are in the next film.
Andy
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Post by Stomski on Apr 16, 2018 11:16:47 GMT
Having been very nonplus about it following my first viewing, I have since seen in 3 more times. Another cinema outing, once early last month through... 'means' and finally on BD.
I have found it improve with every viewing and as much as my early criticisms remain, the character arks and some of the visuals outweigh them now.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 19, 2018 19:09:31 GMT
*FINALLY* Watching Star Wars: The Last Jedi
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 19, 2018 22:37:34 GMT
And?
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 19, 2018 23:01:40 GMT
Phil must be in shock about Ackbar.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 19, 2018 23:16:30 GMT
Real life intervened as the film finished.
I knew about Ackbar having looked up the wookiepedia entry on Admiral Raddus some months ago, which kindly mentioned the destruction of the ship bearing his name and the loss of it's commanding officer. Thank you for that.
I also had an idea one other bit of "character development" was in the film.
Are spoilers off on this film now.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 19, 2018 23:19:23 GMT
Yes.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 19, 2018 23:30:59 GMT
Film's theatrical run is just about over and the home video release was a week and a half ago. I reckon anyone desperate to see it has done so by now.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 19, 2018 23:31:37 GMT
Burns still wins points for correctly guessing what happened to Old Man Luke before the film came out!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 19, 2018 23:45:18 GMT
Damn you!!
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 21, 2018 11:17:35 GMT
*FINALLY* Watching Star Wars: The Last Jedi For me the film didn't get going until halfway through, roughly when Rose and Finn got onto the Imperial ship. A lot of mucking about prior to that, especially on the casino planet. Where Force Awakens was SW with the serial numbers filed off, this was ESB all jumbled up. The hole on Luke's Island was the Degobah tree - show a submerged X-Wing to underline this - Crait, the salt planet was Hoth, and we even got a version of the Asteroid field chase with the Falcon, which also owes a debt to the ROTJ Death Star chase. Luke's Death sort of worked, but killing Ackbar in the background really annoyed me and would have annoyed me even more if it hadn't been spoilt for me by Wookiepedia. I did spot our other favourite character from ROTJ still around and on the Falcon at the end though. There's some good bits trying to get through in there but I need a think about the underlying depressing theme of your childhood heroes mucking things up. There's a bit too much of that in the real world. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 21, 2018 21:13:25 GMT
#STARWARSENDEDWITHJEDI
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 22, 2018 22:20:21 GMT
No it did not.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 22, 2018 23:04:56 GMT
Exactly. It ended with 'Ewoks: Battle for Endor'.
-Ralph
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