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Post by blueshift on Mar 1, 2016 19:30:15 GMT
I liked Prowl, Hot Shot... had real problems, despite a clever head mechanic for both modes.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 1, 2016 20:02:09 GMT
Energon Prowl, I have both the blue and the far superior black and white version (which I obtained from Big Phil!), is a fun mold, not very Prowly by Generations/G1/MP standards, but a brilliantly amusing mold. I managed a Space Fighter third mode out of mind!
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 2, 2016 17:58:23 GMT
I wasn't too keen on Energon Prowl (sorry) but Hot Shot was fun.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Mar 2, 2016 18:50:42 GMT
Hot Shot was far less fun than the original, and I am extra bitter as his gun handle snapped off inside him  It was a silly idea making weapons out of transparent plastic!! |
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 2, 2016 19:37:10 GMT
I do have a large soft spot for Armada Hot Shot. It was a great toy. Great gimmick and fab minicon which interacted well with him. Car mode was properly chunky.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 2, 2016 19:53:20 GMT
Ever played with the Japanese version? Light up hand!
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 2, 2016 19:56:35 GMT
I'm sure I've had a play with one.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 2, 2016 20:04:02 GMT
I wasn't too keen on Energon Prowl (sorry) but Hot Shot was fun. -Ralph Just..... when I was begining to like you......... |
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Post by legios on Mar 2, 2016 20:50:26 GMT
Armada Hot Shot isn't a bad toy at all. I rather like the Energon version as well - the aesthetic of the design is very different but it still works really well.
Energon Prowl is one of those toys which are a bit marmite. I liked it, with its big duck-feet, but I can understand why other folks wouldn't.
Karl
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Post by Llama God on Mar 2, 2016 23:28:48 GMT
But that said, you weren't there during the Energon years. Hard times. Not much gushing there... Better to have gushed and lost than to have never gushed at all. Your gushing does us all good. Enthusiasm is what we need! My Energon Optimus is still MISB. That's how little gushing there was back then. And he's a Takara one. We are living in the gushing years. All hail the gush! (I think I saw a website about that...) But that said, and as I'm sure I've said before, Energon Optimus is a FUN toy. He deserves to be fiddled with. Looks are, as I prove day to day, not everything. |
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 3, 2016 8:11:32 GMT
Energon Op is fab.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 3, 2016 8:36:19 GMT
A fun toy rather than a collector's toy. As with Powercore a few years later it feels like an attempt to do cheap combiners without giving the limbs vehicle modes.
I think it could have been better mind you....
I can see owning one again somewhere in my future.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 3, 2016 12:48:43 GMT
OP1! OP2!
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Mar 4, 2016 11:14:25 GMT
I really like Energon Optimus Prime/Grand Convoy. Although I haven't owned one myself I have played around with other folks and I thought he was a fantastic toy, and well worth gushing over. (I see Transformers first as a kids toy-line and only secondarily as a collectors thing, so stuff like Energon Prime really work for me).
I also tend to see him less as a "cheaped out combiner" and more an attempt to do something different with the idea of Prime as a multi-component entity, taking some inspiration from Super Sentai mecha and from later Brave shows (I hypothesise a proper mapping of his CNA will show a line of descent related to that of Gaogigar a generation or two back...). I don't mind the limb sections not having humanoid modes. After all, Optimus Prime/Convoy was originally comprised of three components and only one had a humanoid mode. Combat Deck and Roller didn't have humanoid modes at all, but were still equal parts of the entity.
He is actually one of my "wish I'd owned that" Prime/Convoy toys, right up there with MP-10.
Cho-jin Gattai!
Grand Convoy!
Karl.
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Post by Bogatan on Mar 4, 2016 12:23:49 GMT
I'd just like a version with a really nice colour scheme. G1 Prime, Ultra Magnus, Thunderclash, Powered Convoy anything but the two versions we had.
To be fair Energon was alright, but others colours might have shown of the mould better.
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Post by blueshift on Mar 4, 2016 16:51:24 GMT
You're all mad, Energon Prime is awful I like the idea, but the execution is poor. The limbs are all rubbish apart from the drill (they all needed some sort of cool action feature like the spinning drill) and the trailer is just a box. It should have had proper launchers or something. There's also no excuse for the robot mode looking as horrible as it does! Now, if Wingsaber had been moved up the release line and not rare as hens teeth, he may have been remembered more fondly! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 4, 2016 17:09:41 GMT
Indeed.
Hotshot and Prowl are both here and I've been playing with them all afternoon while doing blog prep. Neither's got their gun (but if memory serves I have a spare Hotshot somewhere) but both have proved really good fun!
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Post by blueshift on Mar 4, 2016 17:41:37 GMT
W-why did you buy a second Hot Shot then???
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Post by blueshift on Mar 4, 2016 17:44:54 GMT
Though check to see if the face is grey or silver, they released them in both!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 4, 2016 18:00:59 GMT
That should read spare Hotshot GUN.
I did used to own a English and Japanese Rodimus. And both western and Japanese Energon Silver Hotshots which are VERY different.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 4, 2016 21:55:02 GMT
You're all mad, Energon Prime is awful I like the idea, but the execution is poor. The limbs are all rubbish apart from the drill (they all needed some sort of cool action feature like the spinning drill) and the trailer is just a box. It should have had proper launchers or something. There's also no excuse for the robot mode looking as horrible as it does! Now, if Wingsaber had been moved up the release line and not rare as hens teeth, he may have been remembered more fondly! Wingsaber was pish. Very easy to find where I was and I just couldn't be bothered with it. -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 4, 2016 23:35:36 GMT
Cybertron Op posts moved to bolster the Cybertron/Galaxy Force thread at tmukhub.proboards.com/thread/2268/cybertron-galaxy-forceAs related previously I never saw a Cybertron Wing Saber in the UK and don't know anyone apart from Ralph and our Scottish brethren who did! There again, as explored on previous pages we had Shockblast down south and they didn't! No spare Hot Shot gun :-( But I did find rather more Energon basics than I recalled having and successfully transformed the Arcee bike. Three times! |
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 4, 2016 23:40:16 GMT
True. I never saw a Shockblast in a shop. -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 4, 2016 23:49:54 GMT
Did you see Cliffjumper? He was cased with Shockblast.
But you didn't see Mirage or Jetfire?
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 4, 2016 23:56:35 GMT
Oh I thought you were talking about the Energon Wingsabre? I've got a Cybertron one. Never opened it as I don't have the Prime to go with it, I just thought the plane looked cool. Bought that in TRU I think.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 4, 2016 23:59:42 GMT
We are talking about the Energon one! Burns claims it shelf warmed in the wegie TRU.
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 5, 2016 0:02:05 GMT
I thought you were but you put Cybertron in your last post. I didn't even know there was an Energon one until it was talked about on here!
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Post by blueshift on Mar 5, 2016 0:08:52 GMT
We are talking about the Energon one! Burns claims it shelf warmed in the wegie TRU. Burns says many things! Energon Wingsaber brushed against the walls of our reality like a gossamer thread against a spring morn. In reality, the entire Energon Voyager range was a miserable pairing of the yellow Scavenger repaint and Ironhide. |
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Post by blueshift on Mar 5, 2016 0:32:55 GMT
I also feel that the Autobot ultra figures should have used the combiner gimmick somehow instead of using the 'brute mode' thing which felt a bit divorced from everything else the line was doing, and fit more in with the Decepticon aesthetic.
That said, Landmine looked fantastic, and Bulkhead... less so.
Not that they ever sold any of them round me though! Only lived in one of the biggest cities in the country!!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 5, 2016 7:59:52 GMT
We are talking about the Energon one! Burns claims it shelf warmed in the wegie TRU. Burns says many things! Energon Wingsaber brushed against the walls of our reality like a gossamer thread against a spring morn. In reality, the entire Energon Voyager range was a miserable pairing of the yellow Scavenger repaint and Ironhide. There's an analysis of what went wrong with the Voyagers on page 1 but it is all Treadbolt's fault, you're right. I also feel that the Autobot ultra figures should have used the combiner gimmick somehow instead of using the 'brute mode' thing which felt a bit divorced from everything else the line was doing, and fit more in with the Decepticon aesthetic. Yeah they didn't really fit with the play pattern for the rest of the Autobots in the line. That said, Landmine looked fantastic, and Bulkhead... less so. You've caught Burnsitus: Landmine is meh, Bulkhead is a cool Springer homage and his repaint Quickstrike look so nice in red: one on eBay as I type for the cheapest I've seen it in year! Not that they ever sold any of them round me though! Only lived in one of the biggest cities in the country!! Did you see the Magnus repaint of Overload and white Tidal Wave? |
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It was a silly idea making weapons out of transparent plastic!!
